• dugi Blank
  • frG Blank
  • GibbZ Blank
  • sublime Blank
  • aA Blank
  • multi Blank
  • Blank meb
  • Blank DuoGodOfDeath
  • Blank phone
  • Blank Tope
  • Blank schu
  • Blank dellor
  • Blank Noxolan

S15: 1st Division

Sunday 10 October 2010
14:00 EDT

Predictions (42)

TROLLS
71%
12%
CAL-NS

Match Report

MoTM:

Multi's fade both rounds.

Makaveli SG on veil.

Comments

203

Blank dugi

easy

6 October 2010, 07:30

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Blank noway | The Team

for them not for U dugi))

6 October 2010, 07:43

1808

Blank Snail | 250 de ping

match of the week

6 October 2010, 11:10

5

Blank sublime

OK.

6 October 2010, 11:42

1808

Blank Snail | 250 de ping

1 usa 1 euro?

6 October 2010, 12:30

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Blank GibbZ | 9L

2 euro

6 October 2010, 14:24

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Blank noway | The Team

why not 2 usa? are U afraid of 120 ping Gibz?

6 October 2010, 14:37

15

Blank frG | TROLLS

yep very afraid

6 October 2010, 14:38

5

Blank sublime

Shit all over dethridge and his spastics any fucking day with any fucking latency

6 October 2010, 15:29

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Blank DuoGodOfDeath | CAL-NS

Lucid sucks wheres Lost.

6 October 2010, 15:40

15

Blank frG | TROLLS

what about we play tanith as second map?

6 October 2010, 15:48

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Blank GibbZ | 9L

or lost

6 October 2010, 15:56

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Blank Starchy | Anonym Anti Anti A.

'sublime'Shit all over dethridge and his spastics any fucking day with any fucking latency

6 October 2010, 16:00

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Blank meb | Damage Networks

'Starchy'Shit all over dethridge and his spastics any fucking day with any fucking latency

6 October 2010, 16:06

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Blank RickFlayra | CAL-NS

JAMES DETHRIDGE

6 October 2010, 17:01

2104

Blank phone | Snoofed

@________________________________@

you guys gonna get gorge rushed

6 October 2010, 17:57

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Blank blind | onFire

GOT GET EM PHONE

6 October 2010, 19:12

203

Blank dugi

yanks are going down

6 October 2010, 20:04

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Blank multi | The Team

6 October 2010, 22:06

1134

Blank meb | Damage Networks

yo let's play at like 10pm CEST so my dudes actually wake up in time for this match

7 October 2010, 15:00

15

Blank frG | TROLLS

Nah we got some swedes that have to hit the sack at 10.

7 October 2010, 15:39

1134

Blank meb | Damage Networks

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

7 October 2010, 19:48

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Blank blind | onFire

Can you play at 9pm CEST then so we have more viewers for the livestream? :D

7 October 2010, 21:15

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Blank dawk | Indie Game of Year

would be nice if it could be an hour later or so

8 October 2010, 17:47

2104

Blank phone | Snoofed

i just wanted to wish good luck to dugi!! im ur number1 fan dugi/number1 rival! ill c u in the finalz

8 October 2010, 18:09

203

Blank dugi

i'd love to see you in the finals because that'd mean that fana sucked hard with his shit team. No offense to the players in that team, it's just him that makes it shit. Good people in :).

and yeh, get some real pros from US to play against us phone, like duo, mak or steve ;D

8 October 2010, 19:19

5

Blank sublime

And we'll dominate them because they've always been dogshit

8 October 2010, 19:50

2104

Blank phone | Snoofed

im the best player in ns, u'll lose so easy

8 October 2010, 21:31

203

Blank dugi

wow nice gay server

10 October 2010, 17:20

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Blank GibbZ | 9L

Seriously referee but I think my comming was motm...

10 October 2010, 17:52

176

Blank jiriki | old people

Nice shotgunning by Makaveli.

10 October 2010, 18:18

1392

Blank bHack

Oh, that guy in the com chair who is always trying to say something about me trying to merc etc.

Was he any good? hmm

10 October 2010, 18:25

45

Blank aA

rally point to main hive motm... ; D!

10 October 2010, 18:37

203

Blank dugi

PROCEED TO WAYPOINT

11 October 2010, 08:14

1134

Blank meb | Damage Networks

ggs

11 October 2010, 10:32

5

Blank sublime

Yea ggs thanks for the ping disadvantage in a European league. Spastics.

11 October 2010, 10:53

174

Blank d-

Good commanding pat!

11 October 2010, 11:06

15

Blank frG | TROLLS

meb, next time your team enters a european league, and start demanding things, please make sure you actually have a decent east coast server available.

Its ridiculous that our average ping (both servers combined) is higher than yours (by around 30-40).

11 October 2010, 12:05

203

Blank dugi

I had 170ms in that shithole server we played on in US. You had 90/120 on ENSL2 and yet we had to play. Still, why should we bother on giving you commodities and evening the means for your shit skill level?

At least if you were humble like phone or even duo...

Spastics indeed.

11 October 2010, 14:30

1930

Blank sonder | The Team

i like turtles

13 October 2010, 01:33

1134

Blank meb | Damage Networks

yeah, I guess since this is a european league the argentineans should have to play with 200+ ping all the time (really fair)

avg ping facts from our match (taken from hltv when individual pings are NOT spiking):

your server

your avg ping: 33ms
our avg ping: 132ms

our server

our avg ping: 51ms
your avg ping: 142ms

yeah what a disadvantage you had. 10ms higher than our ping on your server; ugh, what a travesty! sorry you get mad just because a team leader doesn't cater to your every whim :(

13 October 2010, 02:17

176

Blank jiriki | old people

Agreed with meb <3.

Altho east coast server would be cool.

13 October 2010, 04:01

1134

Blank meb | Damage Networks

working on it

13 October 2010, 04:54

546

Blank enigmatic | 9L

faaaster!

13 October 2010, 06:06

25

Blank huhuh | Danny Est Gros

Ahahah niggz is afraid now 8)

13 October 2010, 07:43

45

Blank aA

'meb'yeah, I guess since this is a european league the argentineans should have to play with 200+ ping all the time (really fair)

avg ping facts from our match (taken from hltv when individual pings are NOT spiking):

your server

your avg ping: 33ms
our avg ping: 132ms

our server

our avg ping: 51ms
your avg ping: 142ms

yeah what a disadvantage you had. 10ms higher than our ping on your server; ugh, what a travesty! sorry you get mad just because a team leader doesn't cater to your every whim :(


the thing is when i've watched my demo from hltv i saw myself shooting air when i remember correctly i was shooting lifeforms, i dont remember this happening in the past when i used to play on american srvs, still the ping was bad and i did even have slower connection and higher ping but i didnt shoot air.

13 October 2010, 07:55

5

Blank sublime

Maybe you should check that again since I had 130-250ms to your fucking shitty server...

13 October 2010, 08:09

176

Blank jiriki | old people

Fyi. HLTV demos don't have lag compensation like you have when you play the game.

13 October 2010, 08:22

45

Blank aA

sorry meb but your xtincion srv is just piece of crap not worth playing.

13 October 2010, 15:02

2104

Blank phone | Snoofed

motm= match of the month?

13 October 2010, 17:21

203

Blank dugi

mom of the match

13 October 2010, 17:23

1586

Blank dogo

MoTM: Makaveli SG on veil. (the com killed dugi with 12 fast meds) =)

13 October 2010, 17:28

203

Blank dugi

I'd say motm: xtinction server

13 October 2010, 17:30

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Blank Archer

Since when did Euro routing get so bad? If you get loss or something like that it's understandable. It can also be fixed. If you complain about ping when playing in another country, your just dumb. Xtinction is Central US. You complaining about the server being trash is about as menial as me saying all your servers are trash because i ping high. East coast will help your ping, but not your routing. But you will still QQ about the server either way, since it's at fault for everything always right?

13 October 2010, 21:29

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Blank dugi

It's not just about high ping. I've played on Argentinian Servers with 260ms and reg was way fucking better.

And if you wanna play on an EUROPEAN league, at least get a decent east coast server to play on.

14 October 2010, 07:51

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Blank Archer

That makes 0 sense, your basing it off a location again. You say ping doesn't matter yet you just go back location. Serverside FPS sits high. Which is reg. Your routing being terrible to the location, kills your reg. Would you like the servers fpsmeter, it shows you where fps sits serverside? otherwise....
- Rates not properly set
-Gaming rig (low fps, ram etc)
-Player is bad and uses bad registry as an excuse
-network issues
-etc
Good day.

14 October 2010, 08:42

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Blank Archer

p.s. Unless i'm missing something as well, your server regulations are 300 fps. I have 0 idea how savvy you are with Server side issues. The main game servers for East are NY and chicago. You still hit the same hubs you hit to goto the Xtinction server. Unless you go further South, that won't help either.

14 October 2010, 08:55

45

Blank aA

'Archer'That makes 0 sense, your basing it off a location again. You say ping doesn't matter yet you just go back location. Serverside FPS sits high. Which is reg. Your routing being terrible to the location, kills your reg. Would you like the servers fpsmeter, it shows you where fps sits serverside? otherwise....
- Rates not properly set
-Gaming rig (low fps, ram etc)
-Player is bad and uses bad registry as an excuse
-network issues
-etc
Good day.


dude location does not matter cause you simply see they've got bashed 3 times in a row but playing on american srv with TERRIBLE REG(it's not as feelable as aliens cause it's a long distance shooting not melee), ON ALIEN side is pain in the ass i couldnt kill single marine if if you go back to ensl 2 on which we've played i doubt any american player that doesnt provide any bad and low quality trolling will agree that srv was rly good for them, despite them having high ping.

- thank you archer for learning us how to play.

14 October 2010, 09:02

1134

Blank meb | Damage Networks

euros do some ping tests for me please

66.251.252.212
216.234.246.150
69.65.39.163

14 October 2010, 09:32

25

Blank huhuh | Danny Est Gros

In same order :
136ms
165ms
205ms
Toulouse,France.

14 October 2010, 10:17

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Blank Archer


'aA'ON ALIEN side is pain in the ass i couldnt kill single marine


O god you couldn't kill a single marine. I think i'm tearing up over that. You didn't hear the massive amount of bitching because they just dealt with it, keep learnings every day.

14 October 2010, 10:17

45

Blank aA

'Archer'
[quote='aA']ON ALIEN side is pain in the ass i couldnt kill single marine


O god you couldn't kill a single marine. I think i'm tearing up over that. You didn't hear the massive amount of bitching because they just dealt with it, keep learnings every day. [/quote]

i dont think they've dealt with it, if they couldnt handle not to trash/bitch talk in pregame state... dont base ur assumption on something you dont know.

14 October 2010, 11:03

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Blank Archer

Since you "don't think" I can throw the same thing at you. Don't base assumptions on things you don't know.

All i see is trash/bitch talk. I've yet to see any rational argument.

14 October 2010, 11:09

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Blank FatManMGS2 | Indie Game of Year

'aA'i dont think they've dealt with it, if they couldnt handle not to trash/bitch talk in pregame state... dont base ur assumption on something you dont know.


I had to deal with it for three seasons ("team no name" season 11, "Kingclub" seasons 12-13 I believe), and I sympathize with you, it's a real pain in the ass. The majority of games we played were decided not by who was more skilled, but who had better ping -- and before this new server rule was instated, I can guarantee it was never us.

I will concede that the reg on the ENSL servers is better than on <BAD> Server 1, but that's not actually saying anything as reg on the <BAD> servers is almost universally awful. What truly speaks about reg is that the ENSL servers are no better/worse "reg"-wise for me in comparison to [YMS] (Taiwan), Argentina, or the bbs.co.china.etc server, even when I used to play there with 300+ latency. Unfortunately, playing with high latency isn't like riding a bike, and if you come at it cold-turkey you will feel like "it's just reg".

14 October 2010, 11:15

15

Blank frG | TROLLS

~120ms
~130ms
~120ms

Are these east coast servers ?

14 October 2010, 11:31

45

Blank aA

'Archer'Since you "don't think" I can throw the same thing at you. Don't base assumptions on things you don't know.

All i see is trash/bitch talk. I've yet to see any rational argument.

dude i didnt base my assumption on something i dont know, i've been in the pregame state and i know what happened, and ensl 2 is a good srv and that's a solid fact.

14 October 2010, 11:32

15

Blank frG | TROLLS

www.nyi.net gives me ~95ms

14 October 2010, 11:35

5

Blank sublime

125ms
122ms
111ms

nyi.net = 82ms

London, England

14 October 2010, 11:47

5

Blank sublime

'Archer'your just dumb

14 October 2010, 11:47

15

Blank frG | TROLLS

=)

14 October 2010, 11:55

45

Blank aA

~140
~150
~140

warsaw, poland

14 October 2010, 12:17

1392

Blank bHack

66.251.252.212:
Minimum = 117ms, Maximum = 117ms, Average = 117ms

216.234.246.150:
Minimum = 135ms, Maximum = 142ms, Average = 137ms

69.65.39.163:
Minimum = 181ms, Maximum = 183ms, Average = 182ms

nyi.com:
Minimum = 98ms, Maximum = 99ms, Average = 98ms

14 October 2010, 12:37

1134

Blank meb | Damage Networks

ny nfo server: 63.251.20.5

14 October 2010, 12:45

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Blank PaLaGi

'dugi'And if you wanna play on an EUROPEAN league, at least get a decent east coast server to play on.


This guy is a joke. What happened to sportsmanship and fair play and finding the most fair solution for those 2 teams playing?

Not everyone lives on the east coast USA. I ping ~100ms to NYC and ~200 to germany, where you ping 30ms and 90ms. Sounds fair.

Maybe you should lobby for ENSL to not accept teams from outside Europe so you can be catered to. I doubt ENSL is that conceited, but you certainly are.

14 October 2010, 19:24

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Blank EisTeeAT

If u rly believe in sportsmanship on the internet i would say u are delusional !

14 October 2010, 19:28

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Blank aA

'PaLaGi'[quote='dugi']And if you wanna play on an EUROPEAN league, at least get a decent east coast server to play on.



This guy is a joke. What happened to sportsmanship and fair play and finding the most fair solution for those 2 teams playing?

Not everyone lives on the east coast USA. I ping ~100ms to NYC and ~200 to germany, where you ping 30ms and 90ms. Sounds fair.

Maybe you should lobby for ENSL to not accept teams from outside Europe so you can be catered to. I doubt ENSL is that conceited, but you certainly are.[/quote]


when you join european league you agree on certain things like playing on european srv and all those things that come with that when you join any league, you cannot please everyone. ofcourse best solution would be a srv on iceland i guess ; )

14 October 2010, 21:39

203

Blank dugi

who the fuck are you palagi. first time you played ENSL and you're spitting bullshit?

We had koreans too and they've never complained about servers. But you, whiny bitches are moaning 24/7 for something that you EVER experienced before.

Could I had asked to play on an european server in CAL-NS? FUCK NO

14 October 2010, 22:46

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Blank Archer

broken :*(

14 October 2010, 23:36

872

Blank ret

Palagi i know him dugi from bad ns sever lol!!! he can weld +1

30 December 2010, 07:03

872

Blank ret

Also Meb knew when he started the clan/recruitment that ping was going to be shit he even said when he was recruiting "You will be at a significant ping disadvantage against most teams, which is a huge deal. I am only looking for players who are willing to accept this reality."

30 December 2010, 07:06

203

Blank dugi

this is old ret.

i even picked palagi at gathers not long ago for commanding. he's not bad at it. but then, he sucks at everything else ;D

30 December 2010, 08:49

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